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joshferrell
01-26-2007, 10:23 PM
After seeing these videos and seeing for myself how kids destroy the robot I think that they should just scrap studio-c (alpha,beta,crappa) all together,now before fans of studio-c lynch me let me explain my idea which would be a new and improved studio-c,basically you can't bring back the old MMBB robots and the new full bodies are always having kids climb and break them,as the video on this site has shown us,and I have seen in person,so my suggestion is to do a balcony type studio-c but with ALL the characters in robot form,that way kids can't get on it to break it and that way we get all the characters we've known and loved through the years,I think that there shouldn't be any alpha,beta,cappa but they should all be the same with the same amounts of movements,I also think that from now on any MMBB that exist should just stay and not get replaced by anymore studio-c's,now the way I picture it is that it would be similar to what is known now as studio-c with the same kind of lighting but with no stupid blue screen and no more puppets on the t.v. screens,I like the ideas of screens but the characters shouldn't be there if they are on stage,I also think that they dhould bring back the curtain for the stage that has chuck on it only to be closed for birthday songs etc,I think that most of us agree that studio-C had it's day but it failed and should be changed to something better,(I know not everyone agrees),I also think it's absurd not to have ALL the characters in robot form,and the fact that the employees won't do anything about kids climbing on the robots and breaking them is in fact absurd as well,if we get a balcony type studio-c show then kids can't get on the stage therefore saving money to fix them,and everyones happy........this is something HQ should consider because once the robots break and it get's to the point where they get rid of the robots instead of replacing them leaving only screens I think it's safe to say that most people will stop going....

MMBBfan327
01-26-2007, 10:31 PM
As much as I love your idea, it just probably won't happen. Yes, you have good points and I would adore to see this, but it would just cost even more money to replace all existing Studio C shows. Plus I don't think Corporate wants to go back for designs, they want to enhance forward and switch to the times (ie current looking CEC). Plus I might mention that most Studio C's are in desperate repair, and there's only 1 bot. If they get all 5 characters as advanced as Chuck now, that may become a Tech's worst nightmare, even scarier than cleaning out the Ball Crawl (lame pun, I know >D ). Great ideas, though. ;)

pizzacam
01-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Yeah puting money into the show these days isn't on their agenda sadly...:rolleyes

puppetmaster29
01-27-2007, 01:39 AM
As much as I think that would be cool to see.. I don't see that happening at all. They have come way to far with Studio C to just up and scrap it. Even making it a balcony stage will not stop kids from messing with it. Especially kids like in the video you mentioned.

cec080
01-27-2007, 03:16 PM
instead of getting rid of Studio C they need to look into that manager. he or she's the problem at that location, even showroom cast members are at fault as well.

bzier
01-27-2007, 06:20 PM
I hate to disagree with you, but try being a cast member or manager at a store full of little beasts. Today at work, I saw someone up on the stage beating on our Chuck every 5 minutes or so! You can tell them to get off again and again, but eventually you realize these kids don't give a crap. So as a manager or cast member, you easily slip into the 'why try? They're just gonna go up there and do it again anyway' attitude.

The big problem is that these stages are like one or two feet off the floor! Any little kid can climb up there pretty darn easily. The only store I've been to that has full bodied bots where kids can't reach them is in Brandon, Florida. It's like 4-5 feet off the ground!

I also don't see Studio C's demise anytime soon. I like the original version, I just wish they'd make it BETTER. Getting cheaper and worse that the original design is definitely going in the wrong direction.

Shiney Happy Jenn
01-27-2007, 08:39 PM
We never really had serious issues with kids jumping on our 2-Stage in Danvers, but that is mainly because our Stage is like Brandon's by the sounds of it. Ours is about 5 feet high too...which is very effective at keeping the little maggots ( erm..."children") off.

Same goes for Methuen, who has a quality maintained Studio C "Alpha". The stage is 4 1/2 feel or so high with the protective desk prop surrounding the Chuck E. Bot'. These in combination keep everyone off as kids simply can't get anywhere's near him! It's great! I don't understand the poor opinion of the desk, as it really helps keep the kids off the stage. I know it screws up on the programming, and the Bot's arms were desgined to do so much more that the desk would not allow. The desk gets high marks from me though since it is a excellent deterent to troublemakers.

Other stores in our district are not so lucky, and two stand out in particular; Burlington MA and Everett MA. "B" has a very low stage for a MMBB setup...and it has always been a issue there since it was first installed back in 92'. It is pretty much a guarentee that when you walk in the Showroom there, some stage crasher is up there wreaking havoc.

Same goes for "E"..Everett's Studio C "Beta" is in very rough shape after years of abuse from the violent surrounding neighborhood ( just outside of Boston..on the wrong side of the tracks if you catch my drift..). The Bot' almost always has his arms and hands broken, sometimes literally hanging off. Very sad to see. One time i did a shift there and this horrid air leak was in his arm....no one there seemed to care or even notice! How disturbing is that?

The point is: as much as i would love to see some positive changes to the representation of the enterainment offers at CEC ( particularly the animatronic options in the field now...) in my heart i know it will never happen to the degree we as longtime fans would like. CEC is run by businessmen, who are paid solely to make the business profitable by any means possible. It is NOT being run by entertainers. That stopped YEARS ago...noteably when PTT ceased to exsist as we knew it. So i don't see anything even remotely groundbreaking or innovative coming anytime soon, if at all, as far as new Stages or new AA layouts/styles. As much as i would like to beleive it could happen, there is not a snowballs chance in HEll at this point of that ever happening.

MatHat13
01-27-2007, 08:57 PM
"B" has a very low stage for a MMBB setup...and it has always been a issue there since it was first installed back in 92'. It is pretty much a guarentee that when you walk in the Showroom there, some stage crasher is up there wreaking havoc.

Yeah, it has been like that in the past and still sometimes stuff like that will occur but now we have more of a supportive cast of the show and can see how good the show needs to be taken care of, and yeah I always got to scatter some kids off our 2-stage. One day I came inside the showroom to find one of Chuck's feet pulled and unbolted and crossing the other foot, moved by kids of coarse, took care of it though. Than there was a day I found CEC's body sticker parts all over Munch, pain to peel all of them off.:lol

mmbbfan10972
01-27-2007, 08:59 PM
Oh Really? One day I see Chucks Ear twisted almost off:lol :p

MMBBfan327
01-27-2007, 09:12 PM
West Allis is somewhat high, too, and still kids grab chairs, climb on that, then get on the stage and mess around. They got to the point where Munch was about to fall over his organ. Very sad, indeed. The manager would have done something, but she was busy taking care of some ghetto kids climbing and stomping on the Skee-Ball lane and chucking the skee-balls into the higher point holes. Then the kid asks, "Why is it broken?" Man, give me a break. |I

mmbbfan10972
01-27-2007, 09:18 PM
Munch? About To Fall Over His Organ? Stupid Kids>:

MMBBfan327
01-27-2007, 09:20 PM
Unfortunately, yes. Also at Chase I've seen kids get stickers from the prize counter, peel them off and stick them all over Munch's organ. Also at Chase, a GROWN man climbed on the stage, layed down and fell asleep. Wtf is that??? :rolleyes

mmbbfan10972
01-27-2007, 09:28 PM
I Agree MMBBFan327. But thats so funny a full grown man Walks on stage lays down and falls asleep:rollin :rollin :rollin
Whitch Stage Charecter Did He Fall Asleep By?





Quote of the day:Thats A Deal!

joshferrell
01-27-2007, 09:43 PM
lol.......now that's funny..........but seriously maby they should just give all studio-c's either a desk or a rope to rope it off,they should also place signs telling people to keep off the stage..also start making parents responsible finacially for broken robots ...

mmbbfan10972
01-27-2007, 10:51 PM
Crappa
You Got That Right Josh!

bzier
01-29-2007, 11:54 AM
When we first moved into our new store here in Lakeland, I began to see the big mistake CEC made by placing the stages so low to the ground. I watched day after day of kids beating the crap out of our bot. Then, about two months ago, I thought about creating a new 'desk' for our Beta show, to help protect Chuck a bit more from the continual abuse. Problem is, I didn't have the time and money. If I did, I definitely would have built it. I had a pretty good design thought up.

Shiney Happy Jenn
01-29-2007, 06:15 PM
Would your DM have allowed you to add it to your stage though?

Usually such things are frowned upon by Corporate as it's not considered "Standard".

I always thought the desk prop was fine. Some folks did'nt like it because it hid the Bot' somewhat, and past CECE programmers hated it as it interferred with the amazing array of animations one can get out of those "Garnie" Bot's arms.

I liked it though...as it fit the Lettermen-esk set piece, and most important of all it kept the kids away from him.

bzier
01-30-2007, 11:38 AM
Would our DM have allowed it? He wouldn't even notice it!!! He never goes anywhere near the show area at our store when he visits. It's funny, when we decorated the stage for Christmas, he didn't say anything about it until someone pointed it out to him, and then he was like, "Oh that's good."
We didn't even have the clock for our show the first 6 months we were opened. When I finally pointed that out to him, he looked at me and said, "Is there supposed to be a clock there?" I couldn't believe it! There are 2 other Studio C betas here in his district, and like 4 studio c alphas!

See, some of these bigwigs don't give a crap or notice half of the stuff messed up or changed on a show. Why? Because they don't care.
I think all he cares about is money. Just two days ago our shift coordinator's dad died, and he was like, "well, when is she gonna get back to work?" That's crap. >:

Shiney Happy Jenn
01-30-2007, 12:16 PM
That IS pretty sorry, Bzier. Your Co-Ord should be allowed time off ( with pay) according to the Employeee Handbook ( or have even THOSE benefits been disposed of now?). She is in the right to have time off. Let her know this please, and have her call the Employee hotline is he gives her any more crap.

Now...i came across a statement made by Dick Frank recently in a a interview with the local Dallas newspaper. sorry i don't recall the details, i posted this in another thead some time ago and found his statement to relate to what we are talking about here. Check the "RIP Curtains" thread, or the "Nolan interview in Dallas newspaper" thread.....i know i posted a good intelligent rant in one of those about this statement. It was from a interview this past summer that Nolan Bushnell did in Dallas, and also including a interview with Dick. If i can find the article link i will add it here later.

Now onto the statment......


How the CEO of a "entertainment" company can state this to the media is really beyond me, but then again, it PERFECTLY sums up the point i have been making when it comes to why we will never see improvements or innovations at CEC anytime soon. It also perfectly points out the extremely narrow mentality of the current people running the Company and calling the shots.

Here is a direct quote from the article, when Dick was asked what plans he has for the future in expanding the concept:

" We're comfortable that Chuck E. Cheese's does not need a major overhaul or a revolution. We just want to maintain the vitality of the business."

@!#&**!!!

The above statement is contridictory to itself...as HOW can you "keep the vitality of the buisness" WITHOUT " a major overhaul or a revolution"?? With a concept like CEC, it's pretty much a given MUST DO after a few years to keep things fresh, and to keep the Guests coming back for more! He is pretty much saying in laymans terms: " We don't give a damn about furthering the Guest expereince, we just want to make a quick buck." That really burns me folks...>: .

This is coming from the CEO for Chuck's sake! I find this incredibley sad and it makes me ANGRY AS HELL >: >: >: >:

CEC3066
01-30-2007, 03:30 PM
I think Dick needs his head examined sure on PAPER the Company is making $$$$ , it's just not being SPENT wisely in my opinion. For instance:

Remodels:

Blue & Red ?? who the hell came up w/ THAT weird color combination for the interior
Devide Show & Gameroom Again! The whole 1 room aspect SUCKS you can BARELY hear the show w/ the games in the same room.
I am glad to see they have Stopped gutting shows that are in good shape and only replaciiing them if need be. As much as I know it will Not happen if CEC wants Studio C to be a success they NEED To add MORE to it. Bring the Other 4 Characters back in Robot form. This is the MAIN reason Studio C is so frowned on by many of us. unlike the older shows there isn't mich of a "Wow" factor to Studio C.

Shiney Happy Jenn
01-30-2007, 04:18 PM
I raved about this in other threads, so won't re-tred here....

I will say this though: I actually LIKE the remodels a lot. I'm not overly crazy about knocking down the Showroom walls however, but when you think about it...when they do this more Guests become aware of their being a show in there. Sure i ruins the "intimancy" factor of having a seperate room, but i think on the grand scale it works out better for the Guests.

CEC has always been profitable. That will never change, and i am happy it won't as without $$ nothing can be done in addition to what they have done, and hopefully will do in the future. Part of that profitability is opening new locations...which i have mixed feelings about ( too many, too fast, too near exsisting stores..etc.). Share holders also make them profitable, as well as licensing fees for CEC themed food itmes and toys in other markets. It has to be said too they make a profit from there own stores, by charging a arm and leg for any replacement parts or training supplies. The bulk is of course Guest income though...as let's face it, CEC has always been hot with kids and their parents. Since CEC really has no compeition these days ( since most have been bought out, or sink under the Rat's success) they have pretty much created a monopoly and reap the benefits of this. Also coming into play in the nostalic factor of today's parents. They all remember going to PTT/CEC and now want to share that fun with their own kids.

Combine all of those things, and you can see they are successful. Us fans may not like the direction they have been going in over the last 6 years or so, but on average the Guests seem happy. That is at least what their sales are telling them. As long as the dollars keep coming in, they will continue in their current trend. The moment something changes, and sales start to drop like a rock, i can guarentee we will see some changes. Until then, like Dick said, nothing is going to happen. Like the old saying goes: "If it's not broken, don't fix it".

Great...even if that means the current direction is lame? Hmmm...seems to me i see a lot of "fixing" that can be done.

Shiney Happy Jenn
01-30-2007, 05:01 PM
I found the thread with the original newspaper article containing the quote.

I bumped it up for all to read that want to.....thread is titled " Nice artcile in Dallas Morning News Today"

Well worth reading...Nolan's comments are spot on.

bzier
01-31-2007, 09:47 AM
Even with the remodels, I believe CEC is getting stale. I think Dick Frank needs to start making some smart changes, or step down from his spot. Just like Eisner with Disney, you can only cut out so much before you've ruined the company, in which case the only option is to get rid of you.

The Phase 4 remodels are a smart idea...the whole 'new and fresh' look, but overall I HATE the look. Purple walls are one thing. The bright flourescent lights? Crap! No more showroom? more crap. And that whole statement about guests realizing there's a show here? NOT! I've had so many guests ask me what happened to our show. I tell them it's in the back, and they're like, "That's IT?" Nobody thinks of Studio C beta as a REAL show. Not even the guests who aren't big fans like us!

How about those disgustingly ugly new posters they put up in the showroom with the cartoon kids. They creep everybody out at my store, and they get rid of cool parody posters for these? Come on!

The only good thing I see from the remodels, is the awesome exterior redesigns.

VegaNova
01-31-2007, 11:36 AM
Yeah, my thoughts are in-line with what Jenn mentioned a few posts up. I don't agree with everything they do but a lot of it does make sense from one standpoint or another. For long term success I do think CEC could use a little more "forward thinking" instead of what happens to work for the moment. They can't forget about "who they are" - sometimes you get to focusing so hard on numbers that you no longer see the forest for the trees.

Anyway I gotta say I like the original Studio C's - hate the 1 robot thing, but the alpha shows have an impressive bot in them! Fun to watch and very cool programming. Cappa though, is where that bottom line (money) took a decent idea and pushed it to that generic level.

But yeah it does surprise me to see how accessible the alpha bots are to kids (even with the desk... that easily became a jungle gym). Again this is a parental issue where your kids should be taught not to do that crap, but as a company, CEC gets stuck with the repair bills. :(

-VegaNova

MMBBfan327
01-31-2007, 03:35 PM
Both Bzier and VegaNova have excellent points. When thinking of the new posters, this reminds me of the point made that CEC may try to phase out the characters. The older ones included all the characters, even ones not used for almost a decade. It was one big happy family, just like what CEC wanted their restaurants to aim for. However somewhere along the line, fun 'n games went to business 'n money. Yes, we all understand that you need to spend money to make money, but I think CEC spent their money on the wrong things. I have heard somewhere that flourescent lights are not too good for children, plus it looks like complete $#!t. It's not even an arcade kinda place for the family anymore. It's just a place where kids feel they can do whatever they want. That is what they think of CEC. It's nothing more than a place to scream your ass off and just get away with it. It's probably not a safe bet, or a healthy choice for the company to go back and redo what they once did, but man, they really went in the worng direction. CEC was the $#!t back in the day. Everybody wanted to go. Moms, Dads, Grandmas, Grandpas, everybody! It was extremely unique to see animals do a live show of songs everyone can enjoy and love, probably why parents didn't mind spending a Saturday Night there. Now when you ask a parent to go they just stare into obliviation and mutter to themselves "No...NO!!!! Chuck E. BAD!!! BAD!!!" It's nothing more than hell for parents. It's obvious you need to freshen things up and change for sanitary reasons, but you really need to be wise on your decisions. What CEC thought they were doing was just adding to the effect, making things better. What they did instead was just make a whole new place, a new restaurant. Pizza Time Theatre to MMBB was one thing, but was still acceptible being under a similar theme, but CEC today just cannot simply compare to that. Ever.

CEC743
02-01-2007, 10:25 AM
it's pretty funny b/c one of the stores that I help out at has a full basement so it gets a static buildup everyonce in while towards the end of the night. so you'll go out and find a nonresponsive control console and the studio c chucke is just wavin his head back and forth and patting his foot, nothing else, with no video or audio, and just flashing lights everywhere. It's pretty funny to watch..cec is grooving to the tunes in his head i guess.

CEC743
02-01-2007, 10:26 AM
yeah somehow my home store got a shaft with remodels too, we have no more "showroom" but we didn't get purple walls...i was bummed about that

Shiney Happy Jenn
02-01-2007, 09:02 PM
I like the purple walls...weird as that may sound. I never cared for the white walls, as they reminded me too much of Showbiz. PTT had the nice dark colored walls....and then when Showbiz took over the first thing they seemed to do when they had the funds to was paint them all white and knock down all the Caberet/ Lounge walls. My un-affection for the walls i think stems primarily from that memory: white walls equalled the destruction of PTT. In some twisted way, the new remodel purple walls look "right". I never thought i would say that, but two years ago when i saw the first Phase 4 store i was quite happy with them.

MMBBFan made a excellent point above in his post about how today's parents absolutely dread going to CEC ( in many cases) while previously they loved to go as much as the kids. Now one has to ponder...WHY is that so? WHAT was it that appealed to the adults as well as there kids back then?

I'll tell you what it was: Intelligence and creative presentation, on many levels ( not just the Show).

Think about it: CEC of yesteryear really played that up. They still do in a small sense, but now the emphansis is on catering and "talking down" to the little kiddies, toddlers, and their young parents. Before CEC was out to try to entertain the WHOLE family. Mom, Dad, the kids, and even the grandparents all have different needs. Is CEC today meeting those needs? I don't think so, though they may feel they are. Looking at their current product offerings, and their facilities, i think there is a lot more that can be done. Not targeting such a narrow audience ( toddlers and their young parents) would be a step in the right direction. WHY is Corporate so overly obsessed with going in that direction? Why do they feel that CEC is only for the small children? Is it becuase they know today's new parents will literally do anything for there kids. and want to tap into that cash flow? Is it becuase they feel better presenting the concept as a "kid friendly place for families to spend time---together" that caters solely to toddlers? When was the last time you ACTUALLY saw that happening in your Store? Kids AND parents having fun together at CEC? It's pretty rare. Most of the time you see the kids running around in the game room, maybe playing games, while the parent or parents sit in their booth reading of talking on their cell phone. Is that considered "family togetherness" today? Seems more like a free baby sitting service to me......

I have thought for many years now, since this "toddlerization" era began, that CEC Corp is missing out on a LOT of potential sales and further success by focusing on this narrow target audience. To survive, you need customers who will come back and sample your product over and over again, for many years, to make a successful business last a long time and be profitable. CEC has done this up until very recently. They used to cater to everyone...and it made wise business sense in my mind. Now with the core targets being toddlers, how long will that last? You LOSE your main audience in about 3/4 years! Would'nt it make much more sense to try to appeal to older kids, and the parents too? This is why PTT was the sensation it was: It was similar to Disney in that it appealed to EVERYONE, no matter what their age, when they walked through those glass doors.

I wish i could say the same about CEC of today. I feel they are missing out. Think of all the extra business they would be pulling in if they expanded the menu, brought in games that the older kids and adults could get into ( besides the usual driving type games...yawn). How about having a animated Show that instead as being nothing more then a lame side attraction, be more in the spotlight and designed to get Guests excited again? Start by having the characters onstage do more then just talk about getting a pizza, or taking a break so the audience can go play some games. Sheesh...No wonder hardly anyone watches the shows anymore. It's a vicious cycle really: Lame shows force the audience to lose interest. Keep the shows lame for a long time and before you know it everyone has grown to assume the Show is a waste of time and "not for me, for the kids". If the shows remained excellent to begin with, this would not happen. So it's a double-edged sword.

Okay....so today's audiences are harder then ever to keep entertained. Everyone has the attention span of a nit, and everyone wants instant stimulation ( we have television and the internet to thank for that.) When kids are involed in the equation, the challange to come up with something to hold their interest increases ten-fold. So what can a Show producer do? Enhance the Show with new elements and new "wows". Like i said earlier, i don't see this coming anytime soon to a CEC. Such things only happen when creative and visionary people with a deep passion for such entertainment are at the helm. I can tell you right now that this is not the case at CEC today sadly. Those that DO have such drive and passion are usually not in a position where they can have much say, or get the opportunity to persway their superiors. Those FEW that do manage to get into a position to make such changes usually don't last too long. They are either driven insane with all the rigid budget contraints, inter-company politics, or outright frustration....or they get fed up or worse, forced out because others fail to see the big picture and want to dispose of such "non-followers". "Followers" are good....."Leaders" in a creative sense are bad it seems. "Leaders" want to spend too much money and time investing in bold ideas and creative thinking. "Followers" could care less about such things...they are in it for the money, and want to sqeeze it dry for all it's worth. That's the big difference between "Entertainers" and "Stockholders" folks. It's all about politics, and the all-mighty dollar when you have businessmen running a entertainment company.

Someone brought up Eisner, when he was CEO of the Walt Disney Company. Excellent example, as Eisner was NOT a creative type/entertainer and came from the business side of another movie studio ( Paramount if a remember right, as did Jeffery Katzenberg). Eisner ran Disney, the greatest entertainment company there is, AS A MOVIE STUDIO executive would, NOT as a passionate entertainer. Walt was of course this, and his drive and passion for what he was trying to accomplish inspired others around him...and look at the marvelous Worlds of Disney we have. Having a businessman come in such as Eisner to run such a company seemed good at the time. This style of running the organization worked well for Disney in the late 80's and early 90's, but soon all that usual big-business bulls*** got in the way of important creative decisions, money was cut, strings were pulled, and we ended up with second rate theme parks ( Disney's Cali Adventure/ Hong Kong DL) and the end of the Disney Animation Studio ( the VERY THING that made the Company the success it was!) A nice example of how such narrow minded thinking can ruin a fantastic success and turn it into a lukewarm, shallow entity of it's former glorious self. Same i feel applies to today's CEC.


Tha point to all this is that CEC needs to seriously consider changing some views before it's too late. They are on the very cusp..teetering on the edge to oblivian in my mind....and despite how rosey the stock quote is ( which seems to be the main bar held to indicate that they are "successful") they are literally heading for selfdestruct. I don't see that happening anytime too soon...maybe 5/6 years from now....but it WILL happen. Maybe then, the slate will be clear, the higher-ups will have retired, and some NEW BLOOD can be given a shot at truly 'Making Magic" and bringing this great concept back to the forefront of the "eatertainment" brands.

That's another thing ...the "brand" name. CEC derserves better then just being a "brand", just as the Disney Company deserves better then just being referred to as a "brand" ( thanks Mikey..).

Chuck E. Cheese's should NOT be a "brand".....it should be a "EXPERIENCE" that no one will forget, and everyone no matter what age will LOVE. Just like the USED to.

Like i said earlier, CEC could learn a heck of a lot from it's own past if they just took the time to take a view. Charging ahead with the blinders on will just lead to eventual ruin...

But hey, enough gloom and doom. Look at the bright side: If CEC NEVER changed over the years, would we all be sitting here right now conversing about such things?

Probably not.....

:hat

bzier
02-02-2007, 12:52 PM
Nope...Instead, we'd all be sitting here remembering going to a place that was awesome...that closed years ago...probably. I don't really know.
I've often wondered what would have happened if stores never changed...if the big powerhouses that were Showbiz and Pizza Time Theatre remained the EXACT same as they were in their heyday. They probably would not have made it in the '90s. The majority of them would probably have closed, but there'd still be a few hanging around I'm sure. But today, I don't know...nostalgia and retro is VERY in right now, and I know since our new store has opened, I've talked to at least 30 different people who remembered PTT or Showbiz, and they all said the same thing: "It was so awesome! It's a shame to see it come to this, but I guess things change." They always talk about how much bigger it was, how many more games there were, all the different shows and separate rooms, the ball pit, and the sports bar. I laugh, becasue every time I hear a guest going off like that, it brings me right back to my memories of PTT.

Yep. Things change. Some for good, some not so good. I do think CEC needs to rethink their concept, especially in the target audience. EVERYBODY can be a kid at CEC, not just toddlers. So you've got a place great for kids between the ages of 2 and 8, what about everybody else? What about me, a 23 year old kid? ;)
;)

MMBBfan327
02-02-2007, 03:26 PM
I've often wondered what would have happened if stores never changed...

Well, as much as I'd LOVE to walk into CEC seeing how it was 15 years ago (my personal heyday), and even beyond that, the building would all be crapped out, the shows would be rough even with being maintained, and the ball pit would...well let's not go there. :hat It's nice to see a few stores out there that still contain their original qualities (Rockford, IL; Simi Valley, CA; etc.).


EVERYBODY can be a kid at CEC

I think that THIS should be CEC's slogan! (Sorry to be random again >D )