View Full Version : Are there characters that can't blink?
Beach Bear
07-08-2008, 06:13 PM
There seems to be ether characters that can't blink or just never do it. I've noticed that Dook, Beach Bear, and Billy Bob never blink or close their eyes.
CEC Kid Check
07-08-2008, 09:43 PM
Someone else can answer your question, but I believe the characters you mention don't blink, instead they have a "Eye Raise" movement.
To accomplish both eye lids down and up, you'd need 3 movements (Down, Middle, Up) In order to do this, you need to connect two cylinders together, one behind the other.
Beth/Chris explained the rest here:
I don't know how easy this can be written, but here's the main scoop:
Eyes for Billy Bob have three positions. Left, Center and Right.
All of the animatronics that CEI built used air cylinders that only had two positions. So, in order to get three (or more) positions, CEI had to "stack" air cylinders.
The eyes use air cylinders that when relaxed, look to the left. (Not sure without looking... but I think this is all in the "extended" position)
When you "air up" Billy Bob - his eyes will go to the center. This is because the first air cylinder is set to always pull "back" and thus centers his eyes. When the computer wants him to look left, the system releases the air pressure to the cyl and the internal spring pushes the cylinder back to the LEFT position.
Air the cylinder back up - and the eyes PULL the cylinder back to center.
Now, the same goes for the other air cylinder - only in reverse. This cylinder is in it's "'relaxed" position all the time. When the computer wants him to look right - it pulls the spring tension back on the cylinder and makes him look right.
So, remember - the ony cylinder is technicialy working all the time keeping his eyes centered, and the other only works when he looks right. (So - when he is looking right, BOTH air cylinders are pulled "in")
Which is why he is looking left when there is no pressure delivered to the system.
Hope this helps!
Beth and Chris
That thread can be found here:
http://www.showbizpizzaforum.com/showthread.php?t=2033
Beach Bear
07-10-2008, 08:33 AM
Someone else can answer your question, but I believe the characters you mention don't blink, instead they have a "Eye Raise" movement.
To accomplish both eye lids down and up, you'd need 3 movements (Down, Middle, Up) In order to do this, you need to connect two cylinders together, one behind the other.
Beth/Chris explained the rest here:
That thread can be found here:
http://www.showbizpizzaforum.com/showthread.php?t=2033
Yes, that sounds very logical because you never see Mitzi doing a 'eyelid raise' movement. Instead, she must have a 'eyelid close' movement. Thanks for the answer.
rodhoutx
10-06-2008, 07:56 PM
Just to stir this up. Uncle Klunk could of course close his eyelids and also move them up, just like the 32-movement studio C bot can.
Beach Bear
10-07-2008, 02:03 AM
Just to stir this up. Uncle Klunk could of course close his eyelids and also move them up, just like the 32-movement studio C bot can.
Yes, I was thinking about that recently, the similarities between Chuck and Klunk. If I remember correctly, didn't Klunk also have 30+ movements?
Vega III CEC
10-07-2008, 08:37 PM
Yes, I was thinking about that recently, the similarities between Chuck and Klunk. If I remember correctly, didn't Klunk also have 30+ movements?You are correct. Both Klunk and the modern Chuck robot have almost the same movement amount possible.
Beach Bear
10-07-2008, 10:05 PM
You are correct. Both Klunk and the modern Chuck robot have almost the same movement amount possible.
Yet, Klunk was still somewhat more impressive. Oh well, maybe CEC's next stab at a new show will be better.
But what's kinda funny is that Klunk and Chuck both have a ear wiggle. :))
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