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dheineCECfan
06-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Is there any way to get in touch with Jul Kamen and her 1977-1980's CECPTT history?

menutia
06-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Jul will be sending in some items from her portfolio for use on the site. I'm sure you will see her contributions shortly.

Yoshiya Kiryu
06-06-2008, 01:02 PM
Any of her original design sketches?

VegaNova
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Oh yeah, Jul has some very nice stuff that she's been gracious enough to share.

Some of it will be appearing very soon, especially in the character/stage sections as they're updated. The character concept art will probably be posted in there as well.

I was waiting to post the photos and concept sketches of the Concept Unification prototype stage until I could get a little bit more information, which I now have, so they'll be posted very soon. It was really cool to get some inside perspective from that transformation period in SPP/CEC history.

pizzacam
06-06-2008, 02:46 PM
LOL wow make ME look like a jackass why don't you... I only passed everything I had from her to you all about uh 2-3 months ago...

The only thing I held out on was her email cause I know everyone of you guys/gals have YOUR DL contacts too!... :-O

Oh well at least the site's finally gonna benefit from this great contact... I guess that's all that matters... :-P

VegaNova
06-06-2008, 03:22 PM
Actually since this isn't a popularity contest, that is all that matters. I'm glad you've come around to see the bigger picture. >:D<

Gabe did send me a bunch of scans months back. I could have just posted the photos, but to be honest, Jul has some really nice stuff in her portfolio. Including some stuff that breeds more questions than it provides answers. I wanted to make sure that when these images were posted to the actual website, that they were put in the proper context that they deserve. Some stuff is so odd and unique I'm still looking for a proper home.

So give me a little time and everything will be shared. I can only update so fast, so Gabe if you wanna post some or all of the photos here on the forum please feel free to do so. My only goal is to make sure they all get shared eventually. :D

pizzacam
06-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Alright >:D<

That sounds good... (hugs it out) LOL

ChuckEFranchize454
06-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Oh I feel the love! lol You guys are nutz. Its amazing all the stuff jul has in her perfolios! Alot of amazing stuff!

CEC3066
06-06-2008, 05:53 PM
So when are we going to see some videos on Youtube from this gathering?

captslappy
06-06-2008, 09:34 PM
I think there are some up already. I don't know URL's or anything. I know I have seen videos of my garage surfacing already that people sent me links to.

dheineCECfan
06-06-2008, 11:06 PM
I even hope there's concept drawings of from 1977-early 1980's CECPTT years by Jul of:
* Crusty Cat
* Mopsey Sisters
* Foxy Colleen
* Sally Sashay
* Madam Oink
* Helen Henny

captslappy
06-09-2008, 11:04 AM
Crusty, Foxy, Sally, etc were before her time. She wasn't there in 1977. She started around 80 and she was responsible for helping to create characters such as Harmony Howlette, Madame Oink, King, Dolli Dimples (the 2nd version from what I understand) and pretty much all the characters from Harmony on.

pizzacam
06-09-2008, 11:45 AM
She said she didn't have anything to do with Dolli either... appearently Dolli was before Jul's time too so that means they already HAD the second version out by '80...

She worked for Pizza Time Theatre and later SPT in Irving from '80 - '91

She did design B.B. Bubbles so appearently B.B. was from '80 or '81...

She also designed some stages and facades like the original CU concept, the C Stage...and the Road stage was her last project bfore she left SPT.

CEC3066
06-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Didn't Shelly Atkins do all the design work for the SPT stages iin Jul's era?

pizzacam
06-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Shelly started as Jul's assistant...and Jul had her do the illustrations in the CU installation manual and from then on Shelly began doing alot of the artwork and later Character costume designs like the new digs they all got at the Irving store(Japser's leather pants, Helen's pink dress and rollerblades, baseball Pasqually etc...)

She later did the illustrations in the 2 stage installation manual once Jul had left... I'm not exactly sure WHEN Shelly Atkins left CECE but when Jul asked about her the other day at home office they said it had been a while...

CEC3066
06-12-2008, 02:43 PM
I know she eventually got promoted to Director of Entertainment. I think she got the job after Gene Cramm.

Shiney Happy Jenn
06-14-2008, 10:56 AM
She did design B.B. Bubbles so appearently B.B. was from '80 or '81...




Yes, Jul had a lot to do with B.B's creation, however i am am skeptical of her being around that early. B.B. was one of the last characters to be designed and issued by PTT Inc. before it folded , and she did'nt even appear in resturants until 82'.

My educated guess is she was created in late 81' but more then likely early 82'. Only Jul can clarify that.

I have seen her concept sketch for B.B. and it is very close to what she actually ended up becoming. It will be great to finally see all of these i mportant new "finds" added to the Showbiz.Com Site as a lot of this stuff is "must see'.

VegaNova
06-14-2008, 11:48 AM
Yeah as Jenn said, BB Bubbles didn't make it into stores until late 1982 (at the earliest) and might have even been early 1983. As far as her creation date, that depends on how long it takes for a character to go from concept art to finished product.

This issue of "The Pizza Times" is from Oct 1982 and mentions the new pink elephant character (still doesn't have a name at this point) on page 6.

http://www.showbizpizza.com/info/documents/ptt/ptt_pizzatimes2-3.pdf

IggyPop1990
02-23-2009, 09:08 AM
http://www.showbizpizza.com/photos/cec/tx_corpus/004.jpg
What About Jul Kamen?

dheineCECfan
02-23-2009, 10:32 PM
No one has e-mailed Jul Kamen (or any other 1977-1980 CECPTT early location people and whatnot) lately at least...

pizzacam
03-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Well actually, I spoke with Jul about a week or 2 ago about some other stuff but she mentioned she finally got her Chuck back from HQ's and was thanking me for egging her on! :))

I'm glad it's back where it should be...in the hands of someone who'll take care of it and appreciates how rare and historical it is! =D>

Harmony Howlette
03-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Well actually, I spoke with Jul about a week or 2 ago about some other stuff but she mentioned she finally got her Chuck back from HQ's and was thanking me for egging her on! :))

I'm glad it's back where it should be...in the hands of someone who'll take care of it and appreciates how rare and historical it is! =D>
So awesome. Good for her! Now if only they hadn't trashed the others...:-/

dheineCECfan
03-03-2009, 09:52 AM
Well actually, I spoke with Jul about a week or 2 ago about some other stuff but she mentioned she finally got her Chuck back from HQ's and was thanking me for egging her on! :))

I'm glad it's back where it should be...in the hands of someone who'll take care of it and appreciates how rare and historical it is! =D>

So Jul Kamen now owns one of the first CECPTT wall portrait robots that has been at CEC HQ in Irving Texas for many years?

pizzacam
03-03-2009, 10:06 AM
So Jul Kamen now owns one of the first CECPTT wall portrait robots that has been at CEC HQ in Irving Texas for many years?

Yes, she owned all three of the ones that were there originally (Chuck, Jasper & Pasqually) but appearently they trahed the Jasper and Pasqually... ~x(

Alot of those framed pictures at home office were just on loan from her... ;)

dheineCECfan
03-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Yes, she owned all three of the ones that were there originally (Chuck, Jasper & Pasqually) but appearently they trahed the Jasper and Pasqually... ~x(

Alot of those framed pictures at home office were just on loan from her... ;)

So Jul still has the framed photos including Crusty, Foxy, Sally, Harmony, Wolfman Zapp, Mopsey Sisters, Madame Oink, Little Shavers, and others that I saw on the walls of CEC HQ in Irving, Texas (which I toured/visited in May 2001).

...Jul couldn't scan those CECPTT pics originally from the Irving, Texas CEC HQ to us, but who knows?

Harmony Howlette
04-13-2009, 01:11 AM
...Jul couldn't scan those CECPTT pics originally from the Irving, Texas CEC HQ to us, but who knows?
...uh...what?

JoshBrown
04-13-2009, 08:55 AM
Ugh. My Head hurts :/

pizzacam
04-13-2009, 10:23 AM
...Jul couldn't scan those CECPTT pics originally from the Irving, Texas CEC HQ to us, but who knows?

Sigh Darryl just ASK for stuff the right way please....then I'll tell you NO the right way too.... =))

dheineCECfan
04-13-2009, 10:11 PM
Sigh Darryl just ASK for stuff the right way please....then I'll tell you NO the right way too.... =))

How can I ask for stuff the right way?

dheineCECfan
08-01-2009, 09:19 PM
Bumped this topic up via Larry the Tech's request. Has Jul Kamen ever seen a knockoff CEC walkaround like the Hunt's Pier Ship's Rat?

dheineCECfan
10-08-2009, 07:28 PM
Does Jul Kamen also know about the unreleased CECPTT octopus character since we recently unearthed a pic of it?

Harmony Howlette
10-08-2009, 08:59 PM
If I recall correctly...she's the one who supplied the pic.

pizzacam
10-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Yeah she's the one who had a pic of it and showed it to Matt and I when we went to meet her in Jan of 2008 ;)

dheineCECfan
10-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Yeah she's the one who had a pic of it and showed it to Matt and I when we went to meet her in Jan of 2008 ;)

So we didn't know about the octopus pic until a month or two ago...

dheineCECfan
03-19-2010, 05:25 PM
Has Jul Kamen seen this redesigned forum yet?

captslappy
03-19-2010, 06:57 PM
She was the one that created the Octopus. It was her picture.

dook97
03-20-2010, 12:37 PM
Man I would like to meet her!

dheineCECfan
03-20-2010, 07:07 PM
Could Jul Kamen be invited to Cheesevention 2010?

zeekeroo
03-21-2010, 12:53 PM
Could Jul Kamen be invited to Cheesevention 2010?

I can totally see people going crazy over her. Didn't she come to the first CV? I know Aaron came to one.

captslappy
03-21-2010, 02:31 PM
No, she didn't.

dheineCECfan
03-21-2010, 05:57 PM
Because Jul never got any invitations to CV, same for Kathy Hopp and CECPTT launchers Nolan Bushnell and Gene Landrum!