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Just4all
05-19-2006, 09:46 PM
Ok well i have a prob , see my Rolfe n earle make this gawd awful screech noise at the floor connection any suggestions...lol i bet u all say tighten it more?

captslappy
05-19-2006, 11:00 PM
How is your stage built? Did you use heavy ply wood? If you used thin plywood that is not going to be sturdy enough. Please let us know how your stage/platform is designed and we can probably help you out a bit more with some more info. If your stage is solid, this should not ever be an issue.

Just4all
05-20-2006, 01:29 PM
its 1/2 incg its the pressboard type,also running at 40 psi i cannot get him to lift Earle what should I run show at? back in the day im shure we had the 40/ 80 setting at our showbiz
but i never worked there after the changeover

Just4all
05-20-2006, 02:10 PM
oops correction its 1 inch:) Grr just get him up n running now the gasket in my compressor goes..do they make some thing like a liquid gasket sealant so u can make you'r own???

pizzacam
05-20-2006, 02:42 PM
I thought the RAE was supposed to run at 60/80

Just4all
05-20-2006, 02:53 PM
U could be right Gabe I.. know Snap would know;) I never fooled with the regulator just the cylanders n the macs:)

pizzacam
05-20-2006, 03:02 PM
He'll know for sure...I wouldn't want you to blow out Earl's pupil! :x

Just4all
05-20-2006, 03:04 PM
LOL...well cant get any air till i fix the gasket around the compressor head...&%^**% where can i get something to make one?

captslappy
05-20-2006, 09:26 PM
He needs to be at 80 psi. 40 psi is no where near good enough. The wood for the "floor" is good, I dare say you don't have it braced well enough underneath and the wood is sagging and bending as he moves. I can almost guarantee that is the problem. You need a better platform for him.

RockafireGuy
05-23-2006, 12:40 PM
60 PSI is way too weak as well.... (look at Munch's Make Believe Band and how crappy and sluggish they look) Captain Slappy is right 80 PSI is the correct pressure.
Snapper usually ran his show at 75 PSI with everything wide open. It was a little easier on the cylinders and still looked like it was running at 80 (which was neat!) 75 to 80 PSI and no lighter. There isn't enough pressure running in MMBB shows and that's why they can't get Jasper to do a full arm up like Beach Bear and that's also why Pasqually doesn't actually beat his drum (besides crappy programing :p ).

captslappy
05-23-2006, 01:36 PM
I actually run at about 75 psi which works pretty good but 80 is best.

Just4all
05-23-2006, 09:43 PM
Ty Guys:) found the culprit, is on the stage was where the wood has a seam...I figure if i pit a 2by4 under the seam area it should fix it

ChuckEZone
05-23-2006, 10:30 PM
(besides crappy programing ).

The programming is really good, actually- it obviously wouldn't look the same as a RAE show, due to the change in air pressure. Unfortunately, most shows in the field are far from perfect and aren't able to reflect the programming done at home office.

RodHouTx
05-31-2006, 01:04 AM
The original RAE pressures should be 40 on the low side and 80 on the high side. That's if you have a "Dual pressure regulator". Otherwise its just "80". Creative specifically programmed parts of shows to run at the low pressure.

You can drop it down to about 70 or 75 if it is in good condition. I think Snap has his lowered, and my MMBB runs at 70.

Don't forget that the flow control adjustments are going to be most important because you can still have a movement move fast even at lower pressures, and vice-versa, assuming you don't have a lot of leaks and the mac valves and cylinders are operating properly.

Tip: Flow control arrows should point to the Valve banks, not the cylinders. I have seen some shows with them turned the wrong way. Difficult to adjust movement speeds that way because the air can't go into the cylinder fast enough.

P.S. Jasper can still do a full arm up with no problem at 70 psi. Mine does.

Just4all
05-31-2006, 01:44 AM
Nope I'm Leak free sofar:) wich port did the Dual regulator run off of? and yes I know reversed flow controls is Bad:)

RodHouTx
05-31-2006, 06:32 PM
Well the main airline split off to two pressure regulators (one at 40, one at 80) and then those two lines went in to one side of the dual pressure regulator.

Two lines come out of the other side of the dual pressure regulator and go to a shuttle valve, and from there a single lines goes to the character manifold where all the characters plug into.

There is a complete diagram in the Blue Show Manual.

Just4all
05-31-2006, 10:12 PM
Hehe yea I rember looking at that manual for hours tring to burn it into memory:)