CV4 idea

[Rockafirefan]

I think we should have next year's CV4 in IL. I would love to meet all of you! There are a lot of CEC's here. with two RAE places as well. What do you guys think?

[looneybird78]

Oops sorry you should have been here... We already have the next 25 CV locations planned out hahaha... No seriously... The tentaive rundown may be...

CV4 - San Jose CA for the 30th Anniversary of PTT
CV5 - Chicago, IL to see Menutia's PTT show
CV6 - At Good Ole Looneybirds to see the FULL Rock-afire!!

So maybe after that? HAHAH!

[Mr Munch88]

When CV3 is over , Jenn and I will get together and decide where CV4 will be. So please dont make plans for something that has'nt been decided yet!

[looneybird78]

Oh No J... dont take that the wrong way... That was just our jokings... Shoot I think we had places to go all the way up to CV 15 hahaha.... It was funny just listening to all the ideas that were popping in peoples minds! But no... we weren't leaving you out... So don't feel bad... It was just us playing around! ;)

[captslappy]

Yeah... we have all of them planned to like CV IVXIVIXXIIIH20 through the year 2029... or something like that... :rolleyes

[Mr Munch88]

Phew.... I feel better. I gotta admit I did take it wrong, and thought I was beiong pushed out of the loop for a minute.
Thanks for straightining my head out guys!
By the way.... Thanks for making this spark of an idea I had 3 years ago a reality. Jenn, Cheryl and I have a great time planning this kind of stuff, and Im glad you all enjoy attending. Thanks Capt. for hosting this year... hoe it was fun. I MISSED BEING THERE BIG TIME!!!!!!!

[captslappy]

That was a running joke. We were just sitting around talking with everyone taht had shows and just "assigning" dates. We have people on the board that dont have their stuff going and were trying to motivate them to set it up.

[joshferrell]

Denver!!!!!

[looneybird78]

Wow thank goodness J... I'm glad you don't feel harshly towards me now... IT most DEFINITELY was NOT and attempt to drop you ... It was just our chats during the convention...

And Cpt... are you sure we only planned to CV IVXIVIXXIIIH20 through the year 2029? I could have sworn we got it up till atleast CV MXVIXXXMXXIIO2 which just happened to end up being the 60 Anniversary of CEC in 2037???

[dheineCECfan]

Actually, Looney Bird's for CV6 or so no longer exists in Jackson, TN.

[looneybird78]

No Darryl Not Looney Birds in Jackson.... My house where I have a 3 stage Rock-afire Explosion setup!;)

[pizzacam]

Hahaha, man CV3 was awesome! It would be great to see yet another RAE at the next CV or CV6...:eek :eek

[captslappy]

You may be right Damon. I think I fell asleep about the time we got to the 50th anniversery part...

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Actually Dick Frank and Big Mike invited us back to TX as they feel bad we were stiffed a CECE Tour. They had spies attend the Event and the feedback was so good, they want to be a part of it!

They said we can have CV10 at their house and Mike will let us admire all his old CEC stuff he has stored up in the attic and Dick will cook burgers and weenies for us on his grill.




Just kidding......

[CEC3066]

you had me there for a sec Jenn

[captslappy]

Actually I think in reality J and jenn need to be our "review committee" on oranizing locations and different people and locations should "bid" on hosting. I'm sure each year several spots would be open to doing so and a number of things are considered. This is how other groups that have conventions with "chapters" do it. It's also the way the olympic host city is chosen too.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Sounds good to me.

I myself have been talking about having CV4 in San Jose, CA for the big 30th Anniversary. This is where it ALL began...even for Showbiz when you think about it really.

I have done a little research already, and i have some people who can help out in making this a reality.

Nothing official...just ideas. The downside to having a CV elsewhere then MA is that chances are J will not be able to participate which is a bummer for our Co-Founder!

Future CV's after the 30th are for thr future to decide. Who knows where we will all be by then.....

[captslappy]

Not if we take up a fund...

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I already told J to start saving his money NOW for CA!!

No seriously....



Hmm..well yeah i suppose if fans wanted to donate to the CV Fund to enable J and his wife Cheryl to attend a non-MA CV then sure, go for it!

We will see....i am still trying to lure him to the West Coast with the carrot known as "DisneyLand"!

I myself would love to see the Santa Cruz park there on the beach.....yeah!

Of course having Nolan Bushnell invite us all over to his pad for a cookout would be cool too......

[dheineCECfan]

If CV4 takes place in San Jose, California in 2007, will we get a chance to meet Mr. Nolan Bushnell at his UWink office if it is in the San Jose/Northern California area?

While in the San Jose area, you can even take a side trip to San Francisco, California to ride the famous cable cars and/or take a side trip to Santa Rosa, California to visit the Charles M. Schulz museum with the Redwood Empire Ice Arena (with Snoopy's Warm Puppy Coffee Shop in the ice arena place) and the Snoopy Gallery and Gift Shop next door to the museum. Other places in the Northern California area are Six Flags Marine World in Vallejo and Paramount's Great America in Santa Clara (both are theme parks).

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Thanks for the info Daryll.

I would love to involve Nolan in some way shape or form. This has been in the back of my mind for 2 years now. I have had some leads in that time frame, and it is possible that if he was aware of it far enough in advance, he may well notice us.

His Uwink resturant i reported about a few months back has still not opened yet in LA. Holpefully it will be opening soon, as it would be cool to go there for a meal at some point.

San Jose does have direct flights too..i have already looked into that. Most flights go to LA first, then you tranfer to a "puddle jumper" as Menutia put it ( small plane) to coast into the SJ airport.

The tricky part in Northern CA is far away from the main attraction in Southie: DisneyLand! I suppose if enough people come to CV4. we could look into renting a mini bus of sorts and make the roadtrip down for the day. It can also work out that CV4 takes place one day and then everyone is free to go wherever they want. If they want to meet up the next day or so in DisneyLand then so be it. DL should be a must as this is where Nolan was inspired in some ways to create the PTT concept.

I'd like to do it....just to say i was there in the area for the 30th anniversary. Being there on the actual dates would be way cool too, ( May 5th through the 25th) but that time of year might be tough for some folks attending.

We will see...

[pizzacam]

Well, what about if someone else organized another convention with another name that for and in area where fans can't make it across the country? Like I know J could never leave MA...but if enough people want to organize another event It's totally possible :) :eek I mean there are alot of fans from Texas so I can totally see doing another event in Dallas or Houston next year that would be for anyone of course but IN Texas because there are so many of us already here...just like there are quite a few up there in the east coast so you guys started CV up there...

[captslappy]

We should really organize into chapters. Texas chapter, Boston Chapter, Chicago Chapter... other clubs and groups do it. Then you can have chapter cons and then we can make CV3 the national convention where all the chapters meet. That way J could do something for the Boston Chapter or maybe make it cover all of New England. Just a thought there. What do you guys think?

[pizzacam]

Sound's Great and within the chapters it can be held in a different city each time or just rotate Like (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio...) I'm just naming cities that could make it happen based on a fan living there (Mike in Dallas, Rodney in Houston, me in San Antonio, and even Matt in Corpus Christi at the beach!) :eek Then meet up again with all the chapters somewhere like Mike mentioned!!

[looneybird78]

MAN do I smell something bigger brewing or what... Its in the air... The excitement is there...

I offically dub Mississippi the Deep Fried South Chapter Headquaters!

[Just4all]

LOL:lol

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

You know i think it sounds nice, but would'nt the Cv excitment be deluted somewhat if there were multiple meetings?

I mean, part of the reason CV builds such excitement is because it's once a year. I'm not saying having other meet ups is bad ( it's great!) but i just want to be sure that the "Big Event" itself is not overshadowed by all the little events. I guess my concern is that the excitement of the meetups would burn out after a while if they happened so frequently.

Does that make sense without sounding like i'm downing the idea?

[captslappy]

Perhaps... we'll see. Just throwing around an idea. I am not concerned one way or another.

[pizzacam]

Nah, I don't think so...when you guys had the first 2 CV's in Danvers and all of us weren't there that were there in Dallas...you guys still had a blast right? So I think it would be pretty cool to be able to do it still once a year in chapters then like every OTHER year is when all the chapters have the BIG CV...or something like that ;)

[VegaNova]

The chapter thing in my opinion is a bad, bad idea.

I know everyone wants to have this in their backyard to save from having to travel far. Which is understandable being that travel is so hard to do and expensive. But to do this will kill CV - mark my words on that. This is why we moved CV out of Mass in the first place. Jenn knew that to keep the event there would make things stale and eventually be the death of a great idea.

There's just not enough fans to succeed doing the chapter thing - if there was hundreds of us then maybe it could work out great. But since there's just a handful of us, it makes sense to get us together in one place. I wasn't hot on the CV 2.9 idea at all (notice my lack of posts in any thread related to that) because to me, that diluted the main event. But I know J was really bummed about not being able to come to TX, so I didn't speak out about it.

Here's the bottom line, if everyone can meet up with a small group of fans close to home, why would anyone bother traveling so far for an "official" event? Nobody would, and thus the CV idea would go down the crapper. :( >:

Let me say this much - making the trip this year was no walk in the park for me. My financial matters here at home have been tighter than they have been in a long, long time. I waited until the last minute to make sure the cost and time off work wouldn't put us into trouble. And I scraped together and found a way to make it (which is why I wasn't at the Clarion with everyone else).

Jenn and J (and I) made a huge move in deciding to start moving this event. And to me, having it in TX this year was great - got to meet so many new people and it was fun. And there were people who still made the trip out from far off places, MA, CA, LA, etc. The goal is to bring CV to more people and hopefully those who get to attend for the first time will enjoy it enough to come again when the next year comes around.

I guess that I'm looking ahead to CV4 - California. The details will be figured out over the next year, but as of today I know enough to start planning for it.

-VegaNova

PS - This isn't mean to be overly harsh or bitter. :o I'm not trying to step on toes or anything, I just truly believe that until we grow larger, this even has to stay unified to survive. I think everyone at CV1, 2, and 3 had a good time. Why would we want to fracture that? The idea is to always try to make things better the next time around.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Thanks Vega....

I think that about covers what i was getting at in my last post.

[menutia]

Agreed! Keep it moving and keep it annual. Even the best fans cannot afford to travel every month. There is no reason why local friends cannot have get togethers, hang out whatnot, but they cannot be sponsored by the SPP.com site.

I would be happy to host people here and show them the local sites, but nothing "official".


~Menutia

[pizzacam]

Oh, well that's kinda what I meant I guess unofficial or not it still a get together that's focused on CEC/Showbiz and there are enough fan in Texas to get together again unofficially... :eek :D

[RodHouTx]

Interestingly in Houston, we have 3 stores all along highway 59 within 20 miles and you can see all 3 flavors of shows. 3-Stage, 2-Stage, and Studio C (cappa) :-)

[captslappy]

wow you'd think in dallas that would still be true but sadly out of the 12508612522334978 stores we have we are about to lose the last 3 stage which we were lucky enough to get to see. We have one 1 stage left which we saw and the 2 stage at Feilder/303 which we did not get to do. Everything is studio C now in Dallas! :(

[dheineCECfan]

Another catch: Nolan Bushnell's uWink is based in Southern California and not Northern California?

And regarding Nolan's CECPTT inspiration from Disneyland's Country Bear Jamboree: I guess that was the same inspiration for robot shows of CEI's Aaron Fechter and ShowBiz founder Bob Brock.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Well i don't think it was the Country Bear Jamboree itself that inspired Nolan Darryl, it was more the whole Park togther. Nolan is a hige Disney fan. He tried so many times to get a job with them before gettting into Atari and PTT. He wanted to work for them SO BAD..he was that driven. Can't say i blame him really...i can identify with this! ;)


The Country Bear Jamboree show definately inspired Aaron though No doubt about that at all in my mind. His early figures looked very reminisent of the CB's.

Okay, this is getting off the subject.

So as we were saying, local get togthers are fine and fun. It just does'nt make a lot of sense though to have CV's all the time as then everyone will get bored with it and the Event will lose it's stamina in no time.

Cv is special......and if properly nurtured and cared for it will grow into the wonderful and momentous Event i KNOW it can become in the future. We are already off to such a great 3 year start! :D

[Mr Munch88]

Ok, so everyone MUST donate $100 to the "J" and CHeryl CV fund! :rollin :rollin ...just kidding.
Its not that I would NEVER leave MA its just the funds that prevent us from doing so(and full time jobs) We would LOVE to make the trip to CA and see DIsney(and we still might) but only if we can save enough $$ and get the time off. ALthough if you really want to donate something......:)

[dheineCECfan]

How about for future CV's visits to Sally Corporation of Jacksonville, Florida and a visit to a Tampa, Florida place that made the Electronic Mouse Orchestra shows? They made be long drives if a future CV is in the Orlando, Florida area.

[RodHouTx]

And Garner Holt!!

[menutia]

Start up a Paypal donation address, for J, and I'll happily kick off the donations!

~Menutia

[Mr Munch88]

WOW someone would really do that for us?!? Im honored!
If you really wou; d like to donate to the "send "J" and Cheryl to CV4 fund"
It would be easier for me to send it directly to me in check form... I have had bad luck with paypal.
E-mail me and I'll send you my NEW home address
j-clowncubbard@webtv.net
geee.... thanks again for actually wanting to do this...if it happens I'll keep a running total posted for those interested.

[chuckrules]

I'd love to help out also J.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

J. i'll happily donate too.

One way or another YOU WILL be at San Jose's bash!!!

8)

[chuckrules]

OH YEAH!:D

[Rockafirefan]

J, maybe you and Jenn can do a video of your RAE/CEC stuff in your new house. Just like you did on the Dick Frank sofa.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I would be up for that.

Actually we have both talked recently about producing a SPECIAL video program for you guys. Since the "J's Video Message" went over so big at CV3, there is talk now of a major follow up!

We shall see what happens.....

[chuckrules]

:D

[pizzacam]

Well damn, in that case help me out too...I'm jobless for some reason. :lol

[CEC3066]

I thought you were getting a job at Chuck E's this summer

[pizzacam]

Hahaha doubt it, I'm in the hospital too often, my would be boss is nice...but no one trying to run a business can be that nice. :(

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

So yeah...

We are looking at a early May 2007 for CheeseVention 4. "More for 4" is the slogan at this point!


I'm looking at this weekend: May 4th/5th ( CEC's listed Birthday) and the 6th. This is considered "off season" out there so local attractions ( including DisneyLand) should not be packed and the rates/airfares should be a lot lower then they will be later in the month.

Post your thoughts here.

Those who have to look at the shcedules, etc. have a look and see if you will be able to make it ( this goes out to Mike, Menutia, and J!)

San Jose, CA is the place. Early May is the tentitive time of year for this to celebrate PTT/CEC's 30th Anniversary in the area where it ALL began in 1977!

Airfares to San Jose are reasonable from what i saw last month while doing research for this. An example: it's $200 cheaper for me to fly from Boston to San Jose then it is to fly from here to DFW! Insane, i know!

So start saving your money people....we have big plans and some neat ideas we hope to make happen. No guarentees, but being in the area will hopefully enhance our chances!

[captslappy]

May should be ok for me. At least at this point I have no conflicts.

[tinafan80]

My concern is this....

San Jose is is about 300 - 400 miles away from LA Area. If we are going to do Disneyland, that is going to be an all day thing pretty much because there are 2 parks and LOTS of things to do. So that is going to be 1 day itself. So that leaves only 1 full day to do everything else. AND, I am sure some people are going to want to go to Indio to see Rock AFire Pizza, if it's till open in May... LOL, and that takes about an hour and 1/2 from LA to get there. So I don't know how that is all going to fit from San Jose to LA to Disneyland to Indio to Hollywood or whatever in just 2 full days.

So I think, personally, what would be best is to start it on a Thursday is San Jose, maybe on the 3rd, and then end it Sunday night. Cause in Dallas people left on Sunday morning which takes away a whole day as well. But maybe some of you guys are willing to leave Sunday night or Monday morning, I don't know. Just a suggestion.

If it started on Thursday and ended Sunday, alot more would get done I think.

Another suggestion would be to do it at an earlier or later time when it is a long weekend for a holiday or something like that.

Just my thoughts!
Luv,
Donovan

[CEC3066]

disneyland might take 2 days 1 day at DL one day at DCA

[tinafan80]

If you know what you are doing, you can do both parks in 1 day. It would just require being there from open to close.

[menutia]

DCA???? Is that "Disney's Craptastic Adventure"???


~M

[menutia]

I would be in San Jose on Friday. Drive south and hit Indio (if open) on Saturday then Disney on Sunday.


Travel times are always goofy in southern California, but it should take:

4.5 hours from San Jose to Bakersfield. Then it's 4 hours from Bakersfield to Indio. Dinner, then drive towards the LA area. Then the travel day isn't wasted.

Travel time could always be cut in half in one were to fly from San Jose to southern Calif.

Personially I would be making a week out of the event so I have time in San Fran and L.A. to hit more than Disney.

~Menutia

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Donovon, Bro, it is interesting you should mention your idea.

Mentuia and I talked about this very same thing back during CV3! Seriously we did...( told you we drove around for hours in the DFW Airport at 3am..lol)

We talked about how since this Event would be "special", and we already had tons of options availible to us out in that area, why not make the most of it...or at least give the attandees the option to do as little or as much as they wanted?

What we came up with in therory was that we could start on Thursday as you suggested, have the actual CV that Friday ( the 5th right?) then people can do whatever they want the remaining weekend. If folks want to stay and hang out in S.Cali that is fine. If folks want to drive ( or puddle skip) to N. Cali that is fine too. This way, attendees can do whatever they want during their CA visit.

I myself will want to hit DisneyLand. Anything after that i am open to.

My personal etinery would be to arrive on Wednesday and hook up with my hot date ( wink). Friday would be CV, then Saturday i will either hook up and drive down with someone ( maybe my hot date?) or fly down to N. Cali to stay at the DisneyLand Hotel on property. I will remain there for a couple of days, then fly home Monday or Tuesday.

So like previous events, CV is only one day....but the following days can be enhanced with other fun activities.

[tinafan80]

That would be cool. Actually sounds cool!!

Saturday at Disney and DCA would be the best. I think most who come would be down for that, at least I hope! Then early Sunday, head to Indio for a few hours for Rock Afire Pizza. I think it could all work if we plan it out right. It will for sure be a busy weekend. It might be even better to start in San Jose early afternoon, get everything done and head to LA Friday night... but who knows... I am sure it will all work out!

Got plenty of time to plan it!!

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Well yeah, that's why it's good that we are talking about this NOW! If this is all going to happen in May 07', then now is the time to hammer out all this stuff. Only 8 months away! I am enjoying your feedback and ideas!

Okay...so Donovan has mentioned Rock-aFire Pizza. Is this something people would want to do? I have heard horrible things about this place....and you can read more in the Showbiz threads ( find "Rock-aFire Pizza Sucks!" and it will clue you in.) Last i heard the place was a ghost town, dumpy, and the show has now fallen into serious dissrepair.

I myself don't really have much interest at this point in making the trek out to Indio ( even though the place sports my logo!). Seems it would take away from my time at DisneyLand and N. Cali. Just my opinion....folks coming to CV4 are more then welcome to go off and take the side trip out there. Talk to Veganova though beforehand, as he was there and he may have some important tips for you about the area.

So yeah....CV4 is Friday and after that people can do and go wherever they wish. That is the idea at this point, but i'm sure we will have a lot of folks stay or at least visit DisneyLand or other surrounding attractions. We can easily meet up and do these things together.

Another attraction i think would be cool to consider a visit to Nolan's new resturant the "Uwink Bristo" which is scheduled to be open by then in LA. More info about this place can be found in my thread in the PTT section called "Nolan to open new resturant..etc." Check it out for more info, or simply go to www.uwink.com
(http://www.uwink.com)

[CEC3066]

yeah besides if you want RAE music we can play some in the car and if you want Jenn's artwork i bet she could do THAT too. (her artwork is in RAF Pizza.

[CEC3066]

My personal etinery would be to arrive on Wednesday and hook up with my hot date ( wink).


WOW Jenn i'm flattererd you find me so attractive

[tinafan80]

It's pretty much the same thing in saying that you wanna go by a CEC that has a 3 stage. You know the 3 stage is gonna suck, so why go. At least at RA Pizza you get something rare. There aren't very many places that have the RAE. So I think it would be something that should be done if we get everyone here in the area. I mean, it's a special occasion and I am sure many would want to go. Just my opinion.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I'm sure if there are enough people interested, there will be a side trip to Rock-aFire Pizza. Never say never with a CV, i have learned! :D



Now at this point, i'd like to know who here is more then likely going to be able to attend CV4 in San Jose if we have it that weekend? Who here is pretty much certain that they will be there? This is just a curiousity factor question folks...don't worry i'm not pre-registering or anything!

Menutia and The Captain i'm sure are game, as well as me and surely Travis. Danny and his folks of course...they would'nt miss this for the world!

Who else??

[VegaNova]

I'm in for this event (as if I needed to mention that). Frankly I think the biggest thing that will need to happen is to get travel and transportation figured out. I would love nothing more than to have the group stick together on this one - which is going to be tricky considering that we're wanting to visit places that are like 400 miles apart.

I'm all up for Disneyland, and also up for the N. California locations, but I might add that the original CEC is no longer standing, and many of the LA area locations have been around since 77 or 78, just as we'd find up north. Unless Jenn has something up her sleeve here (wink*cough) it might be easier to stay in the LA area for the whole weekend. Just a thought, as I would love to see up north as I've never been there.

I would love to hit Rock-afire Pizza and the Uwink place, yeah they're not exactly on topic, but this is CV afterall. I thought it was cool to eat at TJs for CV3. I would say yes to these even though RA Pizza is most likely a dump.

If you've seen DW's Magic Kingdom, then you've seen Disneyland short of some slightly different attractions and MUCH more congested and uncomfortable space to move around. Not to dog Disney, but they've gone out of their way to make both costal places about the same. I'm a bit Disneyed out at this moment, but that's where I was for the entirety of last week, so maybe my view here is a bit skewed. :rolleyes

But I do want to get the ball rolling on this event - it is only 8 months away you know! (Seriously, this has the chance of really rocking if we can lock down dates and seriously iron it out).

-VegaNova

[Billy Bob Brockali]

Hey,

I really enjoyed CV3, and I would love to see everyone again, but it is almost sounding like CV4 will be more about Disney than CEC. I happen to be a pretty anti-Disney person (for reasons I don't need to get into here), so I wouldn't really partake in any of those activities. If that is going to be the main emphasis of next years event, I don't know that I would be able to rationalise the expense. Don't want to be a bummer here, but thats just my humble opinion.

[pizzacam]

I know...I thought Cheesevention was about Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz Pizza pfft guess not. I mean Disney's fine and it would've fit in if this was "walkaroundvention" or "mousevention" Oh well, to each his own. :\

[tinafan80]

Oh come on guys....
You are talking about spending 1 day going to DLand out of the 3 or 4 days that we will be attending CV.
In my opinion, I don't wanna spend my entire weekend looking and talking about Chuck E. I just thought it would be cool to take one day out of all the days and do something different.
I mean, RAPizza, the 3 stage CEC's here and many different things here in LA and/or San Jose are awesome, but I don't wanna waste the whole weekend with just Chuck.
Maybe it's because I have worked at CEC for 10 years, I don't know. I just think Disneyland would be an awesome idea for everyone.
And I know that people are Disneyed out or antidisney for whatever reason, but believe me, when you get everyone together, it's a different vibe and more fun.

This is just my opinion.

VEGA!!! How daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare you come here for a week and not even let me know!! We could have met up somewhere!! *sad*

OH, and by the way, JENN, I would definitely come!!

[RockafireGuy]

I mean Disney's fine and it would've fit in if this was "walkaroundvention" or "mousevention" Oh well, to each his own.
Walkaroundvention?????

Uh.... you ARE aware the Walt Disney company literally invented animatronics and they utilize them ALL OVER their parks aren't you? In fact Walt Disney was the one who coined the actual term "audio animatronics". Disney takes great pride in the fact they invented that particular entertainment medium and are constantly coming up with improvements. If it weren't for Disney's animatronics, Nolan Bushnell wouldn't have had the idea strike him to have animatronics in a restaurant, PTT would have never excisted, Aaron Fechter would not have decided to take a business venture in the field of animatronics, Showbiz wouldn't have come into excistence, and we wouldn't have CEC today... well.. you guys wouldn't have CEC.. I don't claim them.. LOL!
Anyway..... If it weren't for the developments of Walt Disney and his many Imagineers pioneering animatronics, we would never have seen the likes of Showbiz or CEC. So; I would say Disney has a big part in all of this; although they are a sideline.

[Billy Bob Brockali]

Ahh, sigh... Why do my opinions always cause such a ruckus. Nobody has to change what they are doing, or what they think based on my feelings. But I do give my opinion on here regardless of whether it will be popular, because that's what this board is for.

RockafireGuy, I am well aware of the history of Disney and Animatronics. But just because someone likes something doesn't mean they have to be a fan of everything that came before. I may like Ford cars, but that doesn't mean I want to drive a Model T.

I make no effort to hide the fact that I am a SPP/RAE fan first and foremost, although I have an ever-growing appreciation for the early PTP animation. I also have an appreciation for the fact that Disney started the whole ball rolling, but for whatever reason, I just don't like Disney - cartoons, movies, parks, whatever. Once again, just my opinion. I don't wish to get into a Disney argument here. I've learned my lesson!

But my point in all this is that if CV4 is limited to visits to a current CEC and a trip to Disney, I just don't know that I will be able to do it. Yet again, just me - nobody else has to agree with me.

I really, really enjoyed CV3 - a big part of that was that never before have we had access to 3 different shows at once. It was pretty awesome, and seemed like where the future of CV should be headed. IMHO, CV without robots is like a car convention without any cars.

[tinafan80]

It's cool BBB! I understand where you are coming from.
But at CV4 there will be CEC's, I am sure we will want to go to the Simi Valley CEC if it is still there cause they have the porch CEC stage..... from what I was told, they will be there till next summer at least. Also, RAPizza that has a RAE. And then Disney! That is just the few things.... I am sure there is much more.
I think it will be a cool CV!

[pizzacam]

Uh.... you ARE aware the Walt Disney company literally invented animatronics

Yeah...nice...dandy but ummm let me ask you...is this an animatronics convention??? Again I assumed it was about Chuck E Cheese and Showbiz...and yes THEIR animatronics. Whatever though. I can definetly see this thing splitting up soon too...ya know keep the focus on what it's was supposed to be about...yeah Cheesevention! lets go to the Velveeta factory! pfft :rolleyes

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Guys ..guys....guys.......

I think somewhere someone has misinterperted what has been said in some ways. CheeseVention IS about CEC and Showbiz! It was NEVER about Disney! Where in the world did ya'all come up with that..LOL!

No seriously...what i was getting at is that for some folks ( like myself as an example) may have never been to CA before and would like to expereince DisneyLand. lt would be a waste of sorts if you made the trip all the way out there and did NOT go to DL. It would kind of be like being a Showbiz/CEC fan going down to TX and NOT visiting Corporate Office. Same sort of thing....if you catch my drift. Now i'm not saying that DisneyLand HAS to be a "official" CV activity.....i was mearly making suggestions. I know i personally plan to go, but that does'nt mean everyone has to! I actually plan on being out there for a week if all goes well.

So let me clarify what i have in mind so far: CV4 dates are set. It will be the weekend of May 4/5/6th 2007 in San Jose. Orignally i thought it would be cool to get together and have the Event in N. CA on the 4th and 5th..the 5th being CV Day as it's Chuck E.s actual 30th Birthday. Sunday we could all head for LA to take in the sights, and finish up at Rock-aFire Pizza for dinner. People are then free to depart if they wish..however, anyone who wants to stay for DisneyLand can do so on Monday/ Tuesday if they wished. DisneyLand could be a non-official CV thingy for those that want to stay.

This is what i have in mind so far. It would be NICE to have CV4 Day be that Saturday ( 5th) since it's the actual 30th Birthday of Chuck E., but it could screw up the travel time needed to get everyone to Southy. It may turn out to be better and hold it on the 4th ( Friday) as usual to give us Saturday to travel, then Sunday could be a full day.

I am thinking big carpool, or pond-hop in small planes to get from San Jose to S.CA. Personally if we could all get wheels, or rent some, i think it would be much more fun traveling together ( road trip!) It would be some MAJOR fun convoyin' down to LA listening to RAE and PTT tunes ( can you just imagine Donovon at this point? LOL!!) Anyone know approximatly how long a ride it would be? Menutia? Captain?

Airfares to San Jose were very resonable last time i looked, which was the end of August. Rates were slightly higher for LAX...so starting in San Jose may end up more cost effective. I have already had some great help from Menutia regarding the area we would be in near the San Jose CEC and hotels. There is a Days Inn directly across the street i'm told, and the rates are very resonable...moreso then TX!

So again, it's really what you guys would like to do. There WILL be tons of robots. If time allows, which i'm sure it will, we can do another 'CEC Crawl" and visit the old stores like Travis suggested. We will get to see a RAE in action ( well..sort of!) if we end up going to Rock-aFire Pizza. For those who make CV into a vacation trip, there are tons of Animatronics at DisneyLand too.

So don't worry guys ( and exspecially Nick!) the focus of CV4 is NOT "Disney"! It's always ALWAYS been about PTT/CEC's 30th ANNIVERSARY. That's the MAIN reason why i have decided to have CV out in CA in the first place. I always thought it would be very very cool....and perhaps in some way we can attract Nolan's attention and get him involved some how. Now would'nt THAT be cool? No promises though...

So don't sweat it gang. Just mark those dates off on your calendar and start saving money NOW. May will be here before you know it...trust me! :)

[VegaNova]

My take,

Actually Donovan, I was in Florida at that 'other' Disney all of last week. :D Otherwise I totally would have gotten ahold of some people in the LA area.

Jenn, I think everyone was just a little taken by the comment about not going to RA-Pizza because it would take out of your 'Disney time'. Which believe me, I'm all for at least one day at Disney - probably Sunday or even Monday.

I did like Jenn's suggestion about how this could be laid out - Friday CV4's "official" date, Saturday could be drive time (a road trip that long with all of us CEC/RAE fans would be something that would be well worth it). And then Sunday for a CEC crawl of LA area places, and RA-Pizza. I would side with this idea 110%. That would leave monday and beyond for Disney stuff. (Which for me would mean that I would be in the area from probably the wed or thurs before CV until the tuesday after).

Getting Nolan involved is something that I would personally be glad to help pursue. First thing we need to do is seriously track him down. With the internet, that can only be so hard to do.

This is just my ideas here so feel free to bounce your own around! We have a long time to lay this all out and feedback is very important!

-VegaNova

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Well said Vega....and i'm glad to hear you like what i have in mind as far as the layout goes.

Anyone else have any ideas or imput?

[RockafireGuy]

I wasn't disagreeing with you Billy Bob (Nick).. so don't worry!
I was just taken by the whole "walkaroundvention" comment..lol. This does have a lot to do with animatronics yes.. although it isn't an animatronics convention. I do appreciate the fact that people are now trying to locate Cheesvention close to full, working Rock-afire shows.
Cheesvention seems to be more about CEC than Showbiz.. from an outsider's point of view (although I've never been).
It's just that CEC fans kind of go Chuck E. crazy sometimes and leave the Rock-afire Explosion (which is obviously far superior to anything CEC has done by themselves and certainly a lot more entertaining) on the back burner. Showbiz/RAE only fans kind of get left in the dark. The Showbiz concept is NOTHING like today's CEC and was superior to PTT back in the day. I'll have to agree with Nick on his respect for old PTT shows; I'm right along with him there. I had no idea the plan was to cut out some RAE time for Disney.... ugh. I won't be able to make it.. as usual.... but I certainly hope everybody has a good time. You guys really do need to go and see that Rock-afire while you're there. It isn't in all that great a shape or being taken care of very well from what people say, but it's still the Rock-afire. You guys should at least go see it. It would provide a mild laxative relief to Chuck E. Cheesetopation. :p

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

CV has always been welcoming to both fan communities from the start, however i can easily see how it could be mistaken as a "CEC Fan Only" event. This may have happened due to the fact that the first two events co hosted by J and myself were here in MA. Showbiz never really caught on up here in the Northeast, and we only had one location that i knew of in MA ( Springfield). Because of this, neither of us really had anything RAE of Showbiz related, and thus the event collectibles and displays had mostly PTT/CEC items. We have no RAE shows up here at all...thus why no RAE element! So it was'nt because we set out to make it "CEC only"...it was because at that time we had nothing to offer. We were both bothered by this fact, trust me! This is why we had Billy Bob appear for a live show, and i worked 4 weeks on making my Looney Bird puppet. Vega also helped out greatly by bringing a lot of RAE/SPP collectibles. I remember specifically asking him to bring mostly such items, as i knew full well J and I were lacking in that department.

This year was different. Since the first CV i have wanted to have what we had at CV3 this year: a Event in TX co-hosted by Mike who had a show element to offer, and a RAE edge that J and I could not bring to the table. I was thrilled when Mike agreed earlier this year, and the rest is history. This years event was more along the lines of what i had originally imagined CV to be. Every year should be vastly different, and that is part of the reason why i pushed for a move to another location this time around. I was very happy with how CV3 went, and i can only hope that CV4 can top it in some way.

Now in the area we plan on holding this, i do not know what we have out there for RAE related things. I'm sure local fans and Showbiz followers will know better then me where to find these shows ( Ra Pizza is one obviously). I'm not going to lie to you though....CV4's theme will be the 30th Anniversary of PTT/CEC. I think RAE Fans can enjoy themselves regardless as after all, if it was'nt for PTT, we would'nt even HAVE Showbiz! Showbiz was started as a knock off of PTT, and the Showbiz folks upped the show element greatly. There is no debate, everyone knows the RAE Show is 10 times better then even the best PTT Shows....but those old PTT shows do have a twisted charm of there own. Both places owe a lot to each other, as thanks to them trying to out-do each other we saw some awesome additions and some neat shows. I seriously think that part of the reason why CEC is so crappy now is simply because there IS no compeition now for them to worry about! When Showbiz was around, they needed to keep on the edge of there seats and be sure they were delivering the goods to the Guests. Now that Showbiz is gone, CEC does'nt have to do anything but sit on it's @ss!

So long story short.....CV is for EVERYONE. I think this year proved that. We had RAE fans and CEC fans together for 3 days having a frantastic and memorable time...and it was AWESOME! Let's keep the momentum going and stay positive about this.

[RockafireGuy]

Well; I certainly didn't mean to sound negative. I would never argue with you Jenn... you're one of the nicest people on here!!!!!!!! :D



Now that Showbiz is gone, CEC does'nt have to do anything but sit on it's @ss!

LOL! I agree 100 %

Took the words right out of my mouth!

[tinafan80]

OK! So someone tell me what the hell is going on.
So when does it start and end? What days are we doing what? Because San Jose is about 350 miles away from the LA area, and that is going to be part of the day driving itself.
Enlighten me on what is going on!

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

RockaFire Guy....it's cool!! My comment about keeping things positive was not directed at you..just a generalization. :)

It's always great to see the passion the fans have for what they are keen on. This is GOOD!

TinaFan.....the dates are set: May 4/5/6 2007. The idea right now is for CV4 to take place that Friday ( 4th) in San Jose. More then likely we will end up at the current San Jose store to party down.

Saturday ( 5th) will be the travel day to the S. CA area. We can roadtrip down together if it's feasable and stay either near LA or near DisneyLand. That has yet to be determined at this point. It depends on where ya'all would like to stay. Is RA Pizza closer to Anehiem, or LA? How many would want to visit each place?

Sunday ( 6th) Is the traditional "fun day" where we all do a area CEC Crawl, visit LA and local places of interest, and then ( hopefully) finish things up at a finale dinner at RockaFire Pizza. Tinafan...imagine the Live Show we can do THERE!!! They won't know what hit em' when all these people show up and KNOW all the RAE Shows!!! LOL!!!! Gotta get THAT on video.....

CV4 will then be officially over.

For those interested in staying in CA longer, you are welcome to do this. I myself plan on being out there possibly a week, and i beleive Veganova plans on doing this as well if all works out on his end.

Anyone have any more ideas? Are there any particular places you want to visit while in the San Jose area, or the LA area??

[tinafan80]

RAPizza is closer to Anaheim I believe.
But here is the thing I am concerned about. Traveling from San Jose to LA. That is 4 to 5 hours in itself, and just imagine the chaos getting everyone in different cars and following each other from the SJ to LA. Then when we get to LA, 1/2 the day is gone depending on when we leave SJ, and then if we leave Sj early, we will be tired.

I think we should leave SJ on Friday or skip SJ all together. There are more things in LA/OC area to do CV wise.
I could be wrong though, but I don't know about going to SJ for just one day to go to a CEC.
I would be more interested in LA with RAPizza, which is about an hour and 1/2 away, and the CEC's that are around here. And DL of course!! :b

Just my opinion.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I hear you Tinafan.....yes, the gap between the two locations would take a big cut out of our weekend event. However, not having San Jose in the picture some how would be a shame considering that is where it all started back in 77'. I thought it would be very cool to actually hold a CV in SJ for the 30th Anniversary. True, there is not as much to do and see in SJ as there is in the LA area, so you have a very valid point.

The only other way we could get around this, and still keep the celebration in SJ is to rethink the travel arangments. Everyone could simply hop on a plane and be in LA in no time.....but that would of course add on a additional cost for everyone.

If the majority of the fans would rather keep this event based in S. California then that is fine too. I know there are many "historic" Stores still exsisting in those parts, and with the LA areas attracions we would have plenty of entertainment options.

I'm open to it guys......even though not visiting SJ for the anniversary would be a missed opportunity.

What does everyone else think? Let's hear some feedback! Would you RATHER have CV4 in the LA /Anehiem area.....or based in S.CA?

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

CEC3066:

If you are reading this, please can you send me your current e-mail address? All the ones i have no longer seem to work, as i have tried to send something off to you today with no luck.

Send it here: cheesevention@yahoo.com if you would rather not post it publically here.

:D

[CEC3066]

email sent. idk why you were having trouble all my accounts are still active

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Thanks Danny....

I was missing one letter each time i tried to send it! First it was a "e", then a "a" . Crazy stuff...but all is settled and i have just sent you a message.

Read it over and let me know what you think of what i have in mind.

:)

[tinafan80]

Love ya and all Jenn, but I think we should just skip San Jose.
It would be difficult to go back and forth from SJ to LA, and I have noticed that airlines charge a little more to land in one city and leave from another.
I personally would just stick to having it in LA cause there are more historic things to do here involving CEC. Also not to mention RAPizza.

Just my opinion.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

TinaFan darling....you do have some very valid points.

Something else to consider: the new resturant concept created by Nolan Bushnell ( creator of PTT/CEC) that will be opening by next year is located in the LA area as well. It would be very cool to work this into the visit, and coming to the LA area would probably increase our chances of getting Nolan personally involved tenfold.

So yes, having a CV closer to the LA area does make more sense when you think more about it. I plan on actively persuing Nolan and promoting the CV Event so he can learn about what we do. I think he would be very flatured to learn there are people like us out there 30 years on who are still heavily influenced and inspired by his creation of the past. If that does'nt move you, nothing will! I have a battle plan and with a little luck i can secure something. Even if it's just a quick e-mailed note saying hi to us, that in itself would be awesome for the 30th.

Now this is where Uwink comes in. If he WERE to consider appearing for us, of course it would make better sense to bend for him instead of him having to have to bend for us. The easier we make it for him to possibly get involved, the better the outcome will be for the fans. I myself can see CV4 in the LA area, exspecially IF Nolan gets involved. I will know better once i make the initial contact and send off a planned promo pack.

It would still be way cool though to involve San Jose somehow, but the travel time would eat up a whole day and i don't think fans want to be shelping around in cars when they could be partying in town.

Anyone else care to voice some thoughts?

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I posted this info in the thread i have had going in the PTT section ....thought i would post the latest here as it relates to what i was talking about above:

Unwink Bistro

Nolan's new entertainment resturant concept

Opening late 2006 ( hopefully...this is the 2nd time the date has been pushed back)

Location confirmed however: Westfield Promenade
Woodland Hills, CA

Above Maggiano's Little Italy resturant and The Corner Bakery on the north side of the mall.



Just think about it:

We visit his new place and Nolan drops by to say hi! How freakin' beyond COOL would that be???


Just throwing out ideas i have had in my head since the beginning of this year.

[tinafan80]

Well, since no one has responded.... just have it in LA.
I know San Jose is something that you would like you do, Jenn, but I think it would be better to have it here in LA. Would just work out better.
So if I were you, just have it all in the LA area.... probobly Anaheim, OC would be better because there is more over that way than LA.
But then again, there is Simi Valley which is on the other side... but Indio is closer to Anaheim. Just depends.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

LOL...

Donovon, are you just saying that because you live out there? ...

Ha ha ha ha!!


:p

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Well i have been thinking this over, and consulted with some trusted advisers, and i have to say that i am going to stick with the original plan.

San Jose it is.

It's offical.

:D

I think people are forgetting about what makes CV what it is.... it's about the PEOPLE. Anyone at CV3 will tell you that the best times and the fondest memories are related to what certain people did or what they shared with one another. Fans go to CV to MEET other fans....to talk, show photos albums, share things, hang out...etc. RELATE with someone who shares your same interests, in this case CEC and SPP.

The way i am looking at this is that this is a special Birthday event that everyone is invited to. If you can't make it, that is okay. You can still partke in part of the fun!

CV4 will be broken into two areas, N and S CA.

CV begins the 4th in SJ. The gathering will be held at the current SJ CEC in honor of PTT's 30th. This is the city where it all began, and it is fitting for the occasion. We can even work in a visit to the actual location of the first PTT ( now in a shopping center).

Day 2 we are togther for a road trip down to S. CA. If someone rents a van ( or two depending on attendence) we can all go together. As Veganova said in a previous post, this could be very fun as we would basically be a party on wheels with RAE music blaring and CEC tunes. Our company will make the 6 hour trip go by in no time. There would still be enough time to hit Rock-aFire pizza that night to meet up with anyone locally who was not able to get out to SJ.

Day 3 we spend taking in any local places of interest in S.CA/LA area. This would include Nolan's new resturant ( if open) and maybe some old store visits. We can also hit RAPizza if we were not able to the previous night. It would be cool to have the final dinner here.

CV will then be over, and people are free to go there seperate ways.

I think this is the best route to go, as this event will be more fan-based then attracion-based.

This also means people can decide which "half" of CV to attend.....the "Northern" half or the "Southern" half.

Folks can decide if they want to come or not, but CV4 will be in San Jose for the 30th.

[menutia]

Sign me up!

I think I can do all, espically if we get dates early.

I think you are correct about the people. Most of the fans have seen the shows or even own shows. The focus of CV is meeting and catching up with each other.

If we can get the $$$ together EARLY for Mr & Mrs "J" we can have a grand old time.

Congrats on the decision...

~Michael

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Thanks Menutia...this has been on my mind a lot lately.

The dates are definate....have been for a while now.

It's MAY 4th/5th/6th 2007, the 5th being the actual anniversary date ( according to Corporate's records..not mine!)

It NEEDS to be in San Jose.

NOT having a event at where it started would not be in tune with the theme of the 2007 CV. The only reason i decided on CA to begin with was because 07' is the 30th anniversary. There is no other reason.

We can have a great time no matter where we are....shoot just sitting on a park bench with some of ya'all would be a blast! LOL!

The point is, CV is a celebration of the FANS and what FANDOM means to us all. Perhaps this years event will bring that more to the fore since we will not have any "major" attracions this time around...or at least we don't so far.....;)

[Uatu]

Jenn sweets, you need to stay in better contact with me! But I'm in for this. My idea (that I can't remember if I wrote in my last email to you or not) was that a few of us more 'hardcore' fans could do the early San Jose part and then go down to LA. But I don't see why the event can't be held at both locations really.... we just need to iron out that transportation issue!

Count me in though. :D

Let me know before you do anything involving Nolan. Not that I have much leverage when it comes to something like this, but I would love to help in any way possbile.

Jenn - let me know if you have my cell number or not - I'll get it to you so we can talk in person about all this CV4 biznass.

-VegaNova

[menutia]

The best part of this solution is that those who do not want to go to San Jose..... Can meet up in the LA area. Those who only want to go to San Jose, can go home after the first part. Those die-hard enough, can do both!

~Michael

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Uatu.....is that you Vega?

Sure i'd love to hammer out some stuff over the phone with ya. Shoot me off a e-mail to my usual spot and we will get bizzy!

San Jose is near Silicon Valley, the famous spot where Nolan began his career and saw the birth of Atari, PTT Inc. and everything pretty much related to the whole computer/electronics movement in the US. Just being in the remote area of such a hot bed of creativity has exciting promise.

Regarding Nolan....i plan on getting in touch with his PR at the beginning of next year. I might...MIGHT do so at the end of this year, but i am watching the progress on his new resturant closely.

Now as far as transportation goes....Menutia is planning on driving out so he will have a vehicle. We will surely be having others coming to SJ that will have cars, or we can look into renting a van. I don't see a huge group showing up in SJ, so we may well be able to go with just a couple of cars with everyone. Road trip is the way to go...it will be the most fun i think, we can talk, look at stuff, sing alongs, listen to RAE/CEC stuff ( and of course do all the voices and songs ...lol). It will be great! We will take a pit stop for lunch along the way and take in anything of interest we may pass. According to those i know who have actually done the drive from SJ to LA it is about a 6 hour ride. If we leave 10/11ish from SJ we could be in town by dinnertime. Nolan's resturant UWink is also right off the highway on the way i have been told, so this would work out perfectly.

Once in LA those not able to make it to SJ can meet up with us and we can all go off and have some fun. The finale dinner can be at RAPizza so we will get to see a RAE in action and have a decent meal before calling it a night. Hopefully RAPizza will STILL BE OPEN at that point ( May 07'). It would be a bummer if it closed before we all arrived!

There are some inexpensive but good hotels tight across the street from the SJ CEC. ( Days Inn is the current possibility). Menutia has been there and it is not expensive and its also not a dump. Very important for a CV! We can all stay togther at another place in the LA outskirts.

That's the idea i've been working with since CV3. Actually CV4 was starting to be planned as CV3 was going on beleive it or not.....just like the previous years event was!

It's good to have a lot of time to think about stuff, and get ideas, opinions, and resources together.

[VegaNova]

Yeah Jenn, that was my post above. Accidentally posted while 'testing' some board stuff with that other account.

Anywho, this does show a lot of promise. I'll send you an e-mail either tonight or tomorrow with my cell number so we can talk rat business. The one thing I must caution about LA traffic is that it will add hours to the travel time, especially if we hit in rush hour in the afternoon. What I mean by LA is the metro-LA area... Anaheim, etc. It is a non-stop gridlock mess. Maybe it's not always that bad but the few times we've been there it's been hell on wheels. Donovan, your thoughts on this??

Something to think of but nothing to get in the way of things if we can plan around it. 8)

-VegaNova

[tinafan80]

Personally, I think it's a bad idea to have it in SJ and then in LA later on. It's a long drive, and not everyone can afford to come to BOTH cities. So I may be wrong, but I think some people will have to back out, like me, of CV4, cause I don't want and cannot afford to travel to SJ, then LA. And I feel bad for the people who are flying to SJ first, then flying out of LA later on. That is going to be expensive for some.
Also, the traffic is another thing. Traffic here ANY time of the day on the weekend or weekdays is rediculous.
And not to mention that it is going to be a 6 or 7 hour drive from SJ to LA with CEC and Rock A Fire blasting the whole way. By the time you guys get here, you will be tired or not wanna do anything, and that will be your whole day. Not to mention also that RAPizza is going to be an hour and 1/2 away more South from LA/Anaheim area. So that is about an 8 to 9 hour drive alone.
That is why I was saying that it would be best to have it in LA all together because there is much more to do here and still keep the concept of CV. You can still catch up with pics and fans and others, but having it in 2 cities that are that far apart is going to be a hassle for some I am sure and tiring at the same time.
It could be fun though, I don't know. I just know that unfortunetly, I won't be able to attend.
I think you should stick to having it in 1 city. San Jose or LA.

[CEC3066]

just so you all know the Orange County (John Wayne) Airport is closer to Anaheim then LAX

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

TinaFan, you can still come to CV4 man...

Just come to the 'other' half!

We probably won't hit RaPizza Saturday night, as like you said, i think those that make the drive from SJ will be road weary. That may not be the case, but i thin saving RAPizza for the finale dinner on Sunday night is best. So you see, you won't miss out as your will still get a whole day and a half with everyone together!

Some attendees may not want to fly into SJ and join us that first day. That is okay! It's up to the folks coming what they want to do and how much or little they want to be involved in. Nobody says you HAVE to come to SJ. That is optional, but CV will begin in SJ no matter what.

If folks would rather skip the first day and fly directly into LA and stay there, that is fine too. Again, it's up to the people coming what they want to do. The small group in SJ will travel down to LA and meet up with those already there in LA. The final day we will all be togther and take in local places of interest finishing up with RAPizza.

Sound good? Does to me...

It's a optional thing folks. Sj will be for the die hard Pizza Timers who want to make the trip to have a birthday party for there favourite rat in the CEC that is closests to where he was "born" in SJ. Those who want to get a buzz from being in the area where it all started are more then welcome to join us for the day/night

Day 2 is when the SJ group migrates and meets up with anyone stationed in the LA area. Think of this as TWO meetups instead of ONE. That's the way i look at it. We are not asking people to do anything they don't want to. It's all optional.

Day 3 we are able to spend a whole day and night doing whatever we wish, finishing up with dinner.

For those wanting to stay longer, Monday/Tuesday/etc. that would be the time to take in DisneyLand and whatever else folks coming to CA would like to see.

[tinafan80]

Well, I think having it in 2 places like this though will defeat the purpose of having us all together and catching up. I am sure more than 1/2 wont be able to see each until you guys head in from SJ Saturday night. That gives us only Sunday. And not to mention that I am sure almost everyone will leave on Sunday to get back in time for work or what not on Monday.
So that won't give you alot of time for RAPizza or other places to visit in LA. It's not as much time as you think. And even if we had the final dinner at RAPizza, it's an hour and 1/2 away. If people are leaving on Sunday, which I am sure most will, it will be hard to get there and back and then to the airport.

[VegaNova]

Peace maker here... actually if we planned the 'disney' day for monday and/or tues then that would give attendees saturday night until like tues night to hang out in the LA area.

Also this thought hit me Jenn... if there's only a little interest in the San Jose idea (meaning like 4 or 5 of us) maybe that could be done on thursday or something. Then the majority can be held in LA to avoid confusion. Just an idea. Regardless, whether we can get a crowd of people or just a handful for SJ it would make for a great DVD feature!

-Travis

[menutia]

I agree with Travis, but thought I made that clear. San Jose is to get together and celebrate the B-day. There are a few people from out of the area who would enjoy visiting SJ for the "nastalga". The flight out there for 5 or 6 of us would be expensive, so why not get in as much as we can? After SJ, we can then travel south and meet up with the rest of youz guyz.

~M

[tinafan80]

That would be better actually to have it in SJ on Thursday. There is much more to do in the LA area like I have said before, so if you guys came to LA Fri, that would give plenty of time to go to the historic stores, RAPizza, all that good stuff.
I think it would go better that way.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Valid point there regarding how some folks may be heading out back home on Sunday. That is often the case in past CV's....we spend whatever time we can togther until everyone has to break up and head home.

Interesting idea regarding Thursday Vega...as in SJ is a "pre-CV" event. So IF that were to happen, Friday would be the Road Trip to LA, and Saturday would then be the "full" day when we are all togther to visit stores, go to Nolan's place, and finish at RA Pizza. Sunday would be the day those just in for the weekend would use to return home while others ( like myslef) would stay.

Hmmm.......i will have to think this.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I have thought more about this.( starting on a Thursday) and i like this idea. It has some merit.

If we do add Thursday, i would change the dates. I would have them be May 17/18/19/20...4 days for CV4..( cool!).

May 17th being on a Thursday this year is a very neat coincidence too...as that is the date the very first PTT opened in San Jose in 77'. What better day to be there celebrating the 30th anniversary then THAT day?

I like this...

Vega, what are your thoughts?

You need to send me your # so we can talk!

[CEC3066]

hey can we do a 3-way so I can give my input?

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Danny, feel free to to put your imput right here....or if you would rather not post it publicly, send me a e-mail.

I am not able to do multi-phone conversations at the same time...conferencing or whatever it's officially called.

At some point i plan on having a Official Chat here some night.....maybe once the Cv3 DVD is launched and on sale. Should be soon...

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Okay...I've run by the recent date/day changes by J and it looks to me like starting it on a Friday as originally planned would work out better. The reason being is that this would greatly increase J and Cheryl's chances of being able to join us at CV4 as they would more then likely NOT be able to get the time off if it began on a Thursday. They both work and getting the time off needed if it started earlier then the actual weekend would be difficult for them both. We all want them at the Event this year ...so.....

Scratch that idea.....as much as i agree that starting earlier would give us all more time together.


As of now, the TENTETIVE dates are Friday, MAY 18th thru SUNDAY May 20th. This weekend ties in well with the anniversary, and it gives folks an extra two weeks to save up for the Event!

I know i would like to do what i can to enable J and his wife to able to join us at CV4....remember, he is the Co-Founder/Co-Creator of this very event.

Friday May 18th----San Jose with visits to local related attractions ( original PTT spot, PTT Inc. headquarters in Sunnyvale, etc.) That night would be a Birthday Bash at the current SJ flagship store.

Saturday May 19th-----ROckin' Road Trip. SJ band of pilgrims drive down to LA area--hit uWink on the way down and arrive around dinnertime to meet up with more fans at RA Pizza. RA Pizza dinner.

Sunday May 20th---- Morning/early afternoon meetup to do breakfast or visit area stores.... folks then depart for home.

Saturday is the real crunch...the above is just a guide. uWink and RA Pizza are MUST DO's as well as the visit to SJ. The trick is figuring out HOW to include it all with the travel time involved.

Since we do not have a home base this year, and we won't be sitting around watching videos and doing the usual CV things ( like trivia, games, etc.) i think there will be less to do then some think. With the amount of time we will have, i think we can cover the main must do's and anyone wanting to stay after the event on Sunday can do so on there own time.

Thursday would be nice, but again J and Cheryl would then more then likely not be able to come for sure.

We need to leave that window of chance open to them....so this is why CV4 will need to stick to the original plan ( Fri thru Sun).

The date change to the 18 thru 20 is very likely to happen.

[tinafan80]

OK! Well tell J and Cheryl to get there EARLY Friday.... do the partying that day and afternoon.... leave around 7 or 8 that night and be in LA Friday night... cause there is NO WAY you can go to that new place Saturday Afternoon and RAPizza in the same day after traveling all day.
It wont work.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Yes, as i said above it WOULD be a very tight squeeze. The weekend traffic is a issue...i know.....relax Don it will all work out, you will see!

Here's another idea i came up with:

Let's say we start the fun in San Jose Friday early ( 10 ish) and hit the spots we plan on. Have the Birthday Bash around lunchtime ( 12/1 ish) and then afterwards hit the road for LA. We would then get into town later on in the evening and go to the hotel.

Saturday will then be open for ALL DAY fun....this can enable us to hang out together, visit uWink at Lunchtime and RAPizza for the finale Dinner later on.

Sunday will then be the "short" day since some fans will have to leave early for home due to the time differences.

This COULD work too.....


I should remind our readers that all the above chat about this forthcoming event is IDEAS in the making and NOT OFFICIALLY set in stone! I need to state this so people will not become confused as to what is actually going to go on and when. While we are pretty sure about the dates now ( May 18/19/20th 2007) everything else is being discussed, arranged, thought over, and most importantly SUBJECT TO CHANGE at this early point.

WHEN the plans are officially settled there will be a seperate thread announcing the lineup officialy. For now though, this is just a idea discussion related to the next CV.

Just wanted to clear up any possible confusion anyone just joining us may have reading through all of this!

[tinafan80]

I agree with that above. Early Friday and leave Friday afternoon / night. Works out better!!!!

[Mr Munch88]

OK, I know its been a L-O-N-G time scence I have posted.... lots has happened, between my moving, Cheryls job situation, and some unexpected surgery on my right shoulder.
Cheryl and I are looking at the possibility of attending CV4. Money is still an issue, as is time off from Cheryls new job, but we are not writing this trip off just yet. I understand some of you are willing to donate to the "send J and Cheryl to california" fund (thank you very much) we do appreciate it!
If things work out we will leave here thursday evening the be there Friday morning for SJ and a birthday blast. We will then travel down to the LA area Friday pm, have all day Saturday for uwink and RAP, then leave by noonish on Sunday. I will be bummed to miss Disney being so close, but We will get to see allof you.
Als thanks to all of you that did the cheer during CV3 I finally got to see what I missed and Im bummed big time. Perhaps I'll have to make a trip to Tx sometime myself just to see the Capt.and his shows!
I am still looking for the LB tape I made and the 2 out takes, We will add it to a future dvd that Jenn and I are making for all of you.

[CEC3066]

uh Donovan by leaving SJ at 8 PM that would put us into LA at 4 AM if we drove nonstop now let me ask you THIS...WHAT THE HELL IS OPEN AT 4 AM Denny's? LOL

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

I don't think we would be leaving SJ that late Danny....it's cool.

We would be leaving in the afternoon...around 2 ish i am guessing at the latest. The Birthday Bash will be around noon time.

I figure we would be arriving in the LA area in the evening, early or later depending on the trafffic.

Saturday will then be a full day/night of fun!


J is keen on the new dates, so it's official now.

May 18/19/20 2007 for CV4!

Work is underway to get in touch with Nolan. I have full confidence we could get him involved somehow, but again no promises.

[CEC3066]

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[CEC3066]

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[Shiney Happy Jenn]

Thanks Danny....

Big thanks!

:D

[CEC3066]

so wich SJ store will our party be at there are 2 SJ stores

1371 Kooser Rd (2nd store)
2445 Fontaine Rd overlooking Hwy 101) this is the one Tom Rose works at.

[Shiney Happy Jenn]

The "flagship" location with the two floors....Fontaine is it?

So at this early point...who here is very likely to be at CV4? Just feeling out the general interest...over the years we tend to have about a little more then a dozen fans show up for any one event.

Update on the logo....look for it in the New Year with the launch of the official Cv4 Website! It has a major 30th anniversary feel to it...as this will be a swingin' party!

[CEC3066]

that is correct